Brendan talks to Henry Andrews about the legacy of Clare Graves's work, which formed the basis of the Spiral Dynamics framework, which has in turn highly influenced the articulation of integral theory. After going over some of the history, the discussion then turns to the "Great Stage Theory Debate" (Henry's coinage) initiated by a comment by Nora Bateson on social media that re-ignited debate over long-standing critiques of stage theories in general.
0:00 Introduction
2:53 Stage 1: The Research of Clare Graves
12:53 Stage 2: Don Beck, Christopher Cowan, and Spiral Dynamics
20:01 Stage 3: Ken Wilber and SDi
24:46 Stage 4: Hanzi Freinacht and Political Metamodernism
28:11 The "Great Stage Theory Debate": Seeking a "Both/And" Approach
46:04 Debate in the Social Media Landscape
47:59 Transcending the Stage of Stage Theorization: Practice for Playing Jazz
15. Clare Graves, Spiral Dynamics, and Stage Theory Critique (w/ Henry Andrews)